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Renato Cordeiro

Free Software contribution

Hello everyone,

My name is Renato and, as some friends of mine who have already subscribed in the mailing list, I have a work in which I need to contribute to a free software project. My professor gave me Audacity, and so I started looking for something I could help with.

Happily, with the help of my friends, I got to compile and run Audacity in my computer. I checked bugzilla to try to find something that I believe I could do. The, I found this enhancement: http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346, came from this closed bug (http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330).

Before doing anything, I'd like to know:

Is there anybody working in this enhancement?
Do you have any concern with this contribution?
Is there any reason why this has not been implemented yet?

In Bugzilla, I saw some topics about enhancements, and sometimes there are important discussions about how to modify Audacity's interface, as it affects the user's usage of the program. This case seems to be very straighforward, given it deals only with a new button and changes an error message. However, if anyone have already had an ideia of how this could be, it would be nice to know.

Thanks for the attention!

Renato

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MartynShaw

Re: Free Software contribution

Hi

If you would like something really useful to work on, it would be
great if the view of each track (Waveform, Waveform (dB), Spectrogram,
Spectrogram (logF), Pitch (EAC)) were saved to the project (AUP) file
on save, along with everything else.

HTH
Martyn

On 27/10/2014 02:28, Renato Cordeiro wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Renato and, as some friends of mine who have already
> subscribed in the mailing list, I have a work in which I need to
> contribute to a free software project. My professor gave me Audacity,
> and so I started looking for something I could help with.
>
> Happily, with the help of my friends, I got to compile and run
> Audacity in my computer. I checked bugzilla to try to find something
> that I believe I could do. The, I found this enhancement:
> http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346, came from this
> closed bug (http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330).
>
> Before doing anything, I'd like to know:
>
> * Is there anybody working in this enhancement?
> * Do you have any concern with this contribution?
> * Is there any reason why this has not been implemented yet?
>
> In Bugzilla, I saw some topics about enhancements, and sometimes
> there are important discussions about how to modify Audacity's
> interface, as it affects the user's usage of the program. This case
> seems to be very straighforward, given it deals only with a new button
> and changes an error message. However, if anyone have already had an
> ideia of how this could be, it would be nice to know.
>
> Thanks for the attention!
>
> Renato
>
>
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Renato Cordeiro

Re: Free Software contribution

Hi Martin,

As you said, it really seems an useful improvement. But unhappily I have to say that my knowledge about how to use audacity is very limited (if none). When our teachers, at university, gave us projects to try to contribute, it would have been nice if they had let us choose the ones we had more knowledge.

Also, as my first time, I think I would be more confortable in doing something simple (althought not so essential). Within the context of this little enhancement I purposed, do you think there is any problem?

Thanks,

Renato

Stevethefiddle

Re: Free Software contribution

On 28 October 2014 11:35, Renato Cordeiro <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Martin,

As you said, it really seems an useful improvement. But unhappily I have to say that my knowledge about how to use audacity is very limited (if none). When our teachers, at university, gave us projects to try to contribute, it would have been nice if they had let us choose the ones we had more knowledge.

It would also have been nice if they had discussed their proposal with the Audacity team first.

We welcome contributions, and particularly welcome people that make regular contributions (not only for code contributions, but also contributing to documentation, translation, user support and other areas), but we do not have the resources to offer a free mentoring service.

If you'd like a task which is more "leg work" than "programming", it would be useful if we knew which of the 90+ LADSPA plug-ins (all very old) work correctly in the current version of Audacity, which ones don't work and which (if any) cause serious issues (such as crashing or data loss). The LADSPA plug-ins that I am referring to are the "set of over 90 LADSPA plug-ins" offered here:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins

That's just a suggestion, and you're welcome to pick something else if you prefer.

Steve

Also, as my first time, I think I would be more confortable in doing something simple (althought not so essential). Within the context of this little enhancement I purposed, do you think there is any problem?

Thanks,
Renato

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Renato Cordeiro

Re: Free Software contribution

Hi Steve,

I completely understand your point. This is the first time my professors try to do something like this, and they put us in many different projects to see how would be experience. Feedbacks like the one you gave will be passed to them, and I thank you for the comprehension. It is nice to see an active community as audacity developers' - and that try to help people that are in experiences as mine.

As one of the main purposes of our study, with this project, is to understand legacy code, I believe I'll have to contribute in other ways. As I saw there will be no problems, I'll try to make that little enhancement I purposed in my first mail.

Thanks for the help!

Renato

2014-10-28 15:25 GMT-02:00 Steve the Fiddle <[hidden email]>:

On 28 October 2014 11:35, Renato Cordeiro <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Martin,

As you said, it really seems an useful improvement. But unhappily I have to say that my knowledge about how to use audacity is very limited (if none). When our teachers, at university, gave us projects to try to contribute, it would have been nice if they had let us choose the ones we had more knowledge.

It would also have been nice if they had discussed their proposal with the Audacity team first.
We welcome contributions, and particularly welcome people that make regular contributions (not only for code contributions, but also contributing to documentation, translation, user support and other areas), but we do not have the resources to offer a free mentoring service.

If you'd like a task which is more "leg work" than "programming", it would be useful if we knew which of the 90+ LADSPA plug-ins (all very old) work correctly in the current version of Audacity, which ones don't work and which (if any) cause serious issues (such as crashing or data loss). The LADSPA plug-ins that I am referring to are the "set of over 90 LADSPA plug-ins" offered here:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins

That's just a suggestion, and you're welcome to pick something else if you prefer.

Steve

Also, as my first time, I think I would be more confortable in doing something simple (althought not so essential). Within the context of this little enhancement I purposed, do you think there is any problem?

Thanks,
Renato

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Federico Miyara

Re: Free Software contribution

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Martyn,

> If you would like something really useful to work on, it would be
> great if the view of each track (Waveform, Waveform (dB), Spectrogram,
> Spectrogram (logF), Pitch (EAC)) were saved to the project (AUP) file
> on save, along with everything else.

I agree. This would be very useful. It would demand a redefinition of
the DTD, which, by the way is already outdated (the specification
doesn't agree with what is actually saved.

Regards,

Federico

>
> HTH
> Martyn
>
> On 27/10/2014 02:28, Renato Cordeiro wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Renato and, as some friends of mine who have already
>> subscribed in the mailing list, I have a work in which I need to
>> contribute to a free software project. My professor gave me Audacity,
>> and so I started looking for something I could help with.
>>
>> Happily, with the help of my friends, I got to compile and run
>> Audacity in my computer. I checked bugzilla to try to find something
>> that I believe I could do. The, I found this enhancement:
>> http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346, came from this
>> closed bug (http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330).
>>
>> Before doing anything, I'd like to know:
>>
>> * Is there anybody working in this enhancement?
>> * Do you have any concern with this contribution?
>> * Is there any reason why this has not been implemented yet?
>>
>> In Bugzilla, I saw some topics about enhancements, and sometimes
>> there are important discussions about how to modify Audacity's
>> interface, as it affects the user's usage of the program. This case
>> seems to be very straighforward, given it deals only with a new button
>> and changes an error message. However, if anyone have already had an
>> ideia of how this could be, it would be nice to know.
>>
>> Thanks for the attention!
>>
>> Renato
>>
>>
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Vaughan Johnson

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Hi, Renato.

Martyn and Steve are trying to point you to higher priority tasks, but
we welcome whatever you can contribute! Thanks!

Regarding Steve's point about teachers sending students to us but not
contacting us, I totally agree it is better if they are in touch with us
directly. So please let your teacher know that (as we still don't know
who that is and cannot interact directly).

- Vaughan

On 10/28/2014 12:18 PM, Renato Cordeiro wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> I completely understand your point. This is the first time my professors
> try to do something like this, and they put us in many different
> projects to see how would be experience. Feedbacks like the one you gave
> will be passed to them, and I thank you for the comprehension. It is
> nice to see an active community as audacity developers' - and that try
> to help people that are in experiences as mine.
>
> As one of the main purposes of our study, with this project, is to
> understand legacy code, I believe I'll have to contribute in other ways.
> As I saw there will be no problems, I'll try to make that little
> enhancement I purposed in my first mail.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Renato
>
> 2014-10-28 15:25 GMT-02:00 Steve the Fiddle <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>
>
>
> On 28 October 2014 11:35, Renato Cordeiro
> <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> As you said, it really seems an useful improvement. But
> unhappily I have to say that my knowledge about how to use
> audacity is very limited (if none). When our teachers, at
> university, gave us projects to try to contribute, it would have
> been nice if they had let us choose the ones we had more knowledge.
>
>
> It would also have been nice if they had discussed their proposal
> with the Audacity team first.
> We welcome contributions, and particularly welcome people that make
> regular contributions (not only for code contributions, but also
> contributing to documentation, translation, user support and other
> areas), but we do not have the resources to offer a free mentoring
> service.
>
> If you'd like a task which is more "leg work" than "programming", it
> would be useful if we knew which of the 90+ LADSPA plug-ins (all
> very old) work correctly in the current version of Audacity, which
> ones don't work and which (if any) cause serious issues (such as
> crashing or data loss). The LADSPA plug-ins that I am referring to
> are the "set of over 90 LADSPA plug-ins" offered here:
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins
>
> That's just a suggestion, and you're welcome to pick something else
> if you prefer.
>
> Steve
>
>
> Also, as my first time, I think I would be more confortable in
> doing something simple (althought not so essential). Within the
> context of this little enhancement I purposed, do you think
> there is any problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Renato
>

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