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Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
libsamplerate from 1.7 to 1.8
libsndfile from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25 (or 1.0.26-pre5)


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Re: Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
On 10/31/2013 2:11 AM, Leland wrote:
> libsamplerate from 1.7 to 1.8
> libsndfile from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25 (or 1.0.26-pre5)
Other than these, have I missed anything???

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Re: Is it worth updating...

Richard Ash (audacity-help)
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:38:50 -0500
Leland <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 10/31/2013 2:11 AM, Leland wrote:
> > libsamplerate from 1.7 to 1.8
> > libsndfile from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25 (or 1.0.26-pre5)
> Other than these, have I missed anything???

I was holding out for libsndfile 1.0.26 being released with the patches
we are carrying - Erik has been promising it "soon" for a while now. I
think everything we have as libsndfile patches is upstream, but I meant
to check all of Michael's have been accepted (but haven't).

Richard

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Re: Is it worth updating...

Vaughan Johnson
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On 10/31/2013 1:53 PM, Richard Ash wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:38:50 -0500
> Leland <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 10/31/2013 2:11 AM, Leland wrote:
>>> libsamplerate from 1.7 to 1.8

Not much reason to do so, as USE_LIBSAMPLERATE is turned off.

- V

>>> libsndfile from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25 (or 1.0.26-pre5)
>> Other than these, have I missed anything???
>
> I was holding out for libsndfile 1.0.26 being released with the patches
> we are carrying - Erik has been promising it "soon" for a while now. I
> think everything we have as libsndfile patches is upstream, but I meant
> to check all of Michael's have been accepted (but haven't).
>
> Richard
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Re: Is it worth updating...

MartynShaw
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Hi

We use a lot of libraries!

Ones I see either in lib-src or on "About Audacity..." -> "Audacity is
based on code from the following projects:" but not on the list of
"Library updates" on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/2.0.6_To_Do 
include:

expat (I guess that one is stable, mark as 'reviewed'?)
ffmpeg, we have headers
LAME (listed on 'About', not actually in our 'source', (obviously),
why is it in "About"?)
libmad
lobsoxr  (I'm guessing that Rob would have updated us if there was
anything to do)
libsndfile
Nyquist (I guess Roger keeps that up to date)
id3lib
libid3tag
libresample
libsamplerate (Vaughan commented that there's not much point)
libscorealign
portburn
portmixer
sbsms

I'm guessing that some of these are in use (and so should probably be
updated, or listed as 'reviewed and OK'), some are under EXPERIMENTAL
(and so be left until that is worked on by somebody) and some are
redundant (and so should be removed), but I don't have the time to
investigate further.

TTFN
Martyn


On 31/10/2013 07:38, Leland wrote:

> On 10/31/2013 2:11 AM, Leland wrote:
>> libsamplerate from 1.7 to 1.8
>> libsndfile from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25 (or 1.0.26-pre5)
> Other than these, have I missed anything???
>
> Leland
>
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Re: Is it worth updating...

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On 10/31/2013 5:39 PM, Martyn Shaw wrote:
> Hi
>
> We use a lot of libraries!

:-)


>
> Ones I see either in lib-src or on "About Audacity..." -> "Audacity is
> based on code from the following projects:" but not on the list of
> "Library updates" on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/2.0.6_To_Do
> include:
>
> expat (I guess that one is stable, mark as 'reviewed'?)

My vague recollection is that Dominic modified it slightly for Audacity,
so may require a merge. It's worth checking against current d/l:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/.


> ffmpeg, we have headers
> LAME (listed on 'About', not actually in our 'source', (obviously),
> why is it in "About"?)

I have no idea. For that matter, why any of them whose only-API we use?


> libmad
> lobsoxr  (I'm guessing that Rob would have updated us if there was
> anything to do)

I think he's not releasing specific versions, but I'll check against
that code repository.


> libsndfile

I think Leland just now did this one.


> Nyquist (I guess Roger keeps that up to date)
> id3lib
> libid3tag
> libresample
> libsamplerate (Vaughan commented that there's not much point)

Likewise for libresample, for that matter.


> libscorealign
> portburn
> portmixer

AFAIK, ours is the master copy of this, as Dominic wrote it.


> sbsms
>
> I'm guessing that some of these are in use (and so should probably be
> updated, or listed as 'reviewed and OK'), some are under EXPERIMENTAL
> (and so be left until that is worked on by somebody) and some are
> redundant (and so should be removed), but I don't have the time to
> investigate further.

Thanks for your review, and post!

- V


>
> TTFN
> Martyn
>
>
> On 31/10/2013 07:38, Leland wrote:
>> On 10/31/2013 2:11 AM, Leland wrote:
>>> libsamplerate from 1.7 to 1.8
>>> libsndfile from 1.0.24 to 1.0.25 (or 1.0.26-pre5)
>> Other than these, have I missed anything???
>>
>> Leland
>>
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Re: Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
On 10/31/2013 11:47 PM, Vaughan Johnson wrote:

> On 10/31/2013 5:39 PM, Martyn Shaw wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> We use a lot of libraries!
> :-)
>
>
>> Ones I see either in lib-src or on "About Audacity..." -> "Audacity is
>> based on code from the following projects:" but not on the list of
>> "Library updates" on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/2.0.6_To_Do
>> include:
>>
>> expat (I guess that one is stable, mark as 'reviewed'?)
> My vague recollection is that Dominic modified it slightly for Audacity,
> so may require a merge. It's worth checking against current d/l:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/.
I noticed a couple of days ago that expat isn't even built for Debug
builds and appears to not be used (testing now) for Release builds even
though it is built.  If I recall correctly, I made some changes to
Audacity ages ago that allowed us to use the wxWidgets expat library
since it was already being included anyway.  Will see if I can validate
that.

Leland


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Re: Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
On 11/1/2013 12:48 AM, Leland wrote:

> On 10/31/2013 11:47 PM, Vaughan Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/31/2013 5:39 PM, Martyn Shaw wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> We use a lot of libraries!
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>> Ones I see either in lib-src or on "About Audacity..." -> "Audacity is
>>> based on code from the following projects:" but not on the list of
>>> "Library updates" on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/2.0.6_To_Do
>>> include:
>>>
>>> expat (I guess that one is stable, mark as 'reviewed'?)
>> My vague recollection is that Dominic modified it slightly for Audacity,
>> so may require a merge. It's worth checking against current d/l:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/.
> I noticed a couple of days ago that expat isn't even built for Debug
> builds and appears to not be used (testing now) for Release builds even
> though it is built.  If I recall correctly, I made some changes to
> Audacity ages ago that allowed us to use the wxWidgets expat library
> since it was already being included anyway.  Will see if I can validate
> that.
Yep, hasn't been used for over 5 years now:

http://audacity.238276.n2.nabble.com/Using-wxexpat-td472916.html

Can I delete it?

Leland


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Re: Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
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To summarize...

Libraries updated in the last couple of weeks.:

libflac             was 1.2.1            is now1.3.0
libogg              was 1.1.3            is now 1.3.1
libvamp             was 2.0              is now 2.5
libvorbis           was 1.2.0            is now 1.3.3
portmidi            was r223 (maybe)     is now r227
portsmf             was r223 (maybe)     is now r227
soundtouch          was 1.3.1            is now 1.7.1
taglib              was 1.5+             is now 1.9.1
twolame             was 0.3.12           is now 0.3.13

Removed (for LV2):

liblrdf
libraptor
redland
slv2

Added (for LV2):

lilv                0.16.0
lv2                 1.6.0
msinttypes          r29
serd                0.18.2
sord                0.12.0
sratom              0.4.2

Untouched:

expat               not being used
ffmpeg              being researched
FileDialog          ours
id3lib              not being used
libid3tag           should be replaced with taglib
libmad              stable
libnyquist          Roger said new release coming soon.
libresample         not being used
libsamplerate       not being used
libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
libsndfile
libsoxr
lib-widget-extra    ours
mod-null            ours
mod-nyqbench        ours
mod-script-pipe     ours
mod-track-panel     ours
portaudio-v19       (updated before 2.0.5)
portburn            ours
portmixer           ours
sbsms



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Re: Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
On 11/1/2013 1:21 AM, Leland wrote:
> libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
> libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
>
This has now been updated as well.

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Re: Is it worth updating...

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On Fr, 2013-11-01 at 11:06 -0500, Leland wrote:
> On 11/1/2013 1:21 AM, Leland wrote:
> > libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
> > libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
> >
> This has now been updated as well.

This update removed the autotools build system. configure.ac,
Makefile.am, ... are gone.

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Re: Is it worth updating...

Leland (Audacity Team)
On 11/1/2013 4:43 PM, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> On Fr, 2013-11-01 at 11:06 -0500, Leland wrote:
>> On 11/1/2013 1:21 AM, Leland wrote:
>>> libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
>>> libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
>>>
>> This has now been updated as well.
> This update removed the autotools build system. configure.ac,
> Makefile.am, ... are gone.
Sorry, should I add them back?


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Re: Is it worth updating...

Benjamin Drung-3
On Fr, 2013-11-01 at 17:17 -0500, Leland wrote:

> On 11/1/2013 4:43 PM, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> > On Fr, 2013-11-01 at 11:06 -0500, Leland wrote:
> >> On 11/1/2013 1:21 AM, Leland wrote:
> >>> libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
> >>> libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
> >>>
> >> This has now been updated as well.
> > This update removed the autotools build system. configure.ac,
> > Makefile.am, ... are gone.
> Sorry, should I add them back?

Yes, please.

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Re: Is it worth updating...

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On 10/31/2013 10:57 PM, Leland wrote:

> On 11/1/2013 12:48 AM, Leland wrote:
>> On 10/31/2013 11:47 PM, Vaughan Johnson wrote:
>>> On 10/31/2013 5:39 PM, Martyn Shaw wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> We use a lot of libraries!
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ones I see either in lib-src or on "About Audacity..." -> "Audacity is
>>>> based on code from the following projects:" but not on the list of
>>>> "Library updates" on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/2.0.6_To_Do
>>>> include:
>>>>
>>>> expat (I guess that one is stable, mark as 'reviewed'?)
>>> My vague recollection is that Dominic modified it slightly for Audacity,
>>> so may require a merge. It's worth checking against current d/l:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/.
>> I noticed a couple of days ago that expat isn't even built for Debug
>> builds and appears to not be used (testing now) for Release builds even
>> though it is built.  If I recall correctly, I made some changes to
>> Audacity ages ago that allowed us to use the wxWidgets expat library
>> since it was already being included anyway.  Will see if I can validate
>> that.
> Yep, hasn't been used for over 5 years now:
>
> http://audacity.238276.n2.nabble.com/Using-wxexpat-td472916.html
>
> Can I delete it?

Heh. Yes, please, long overdue. :-)

- V

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Re: Is it worth updating...

Vaughan Johnson
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Wow, Leland, you're a blizzard of activity! Thanks!!!

- V


On 10/31/2013 11:21 PM, Leland wrote:

> To summarize...
>
> Libraries updated in the last couple of weeks.:
>
> libflac             was 1.2.1            is now1.3.0
> libogg              was 1.1.3            is now 1.3.1
> libvamp             was 2.0              is now 2.5
> libvorbis           was 1.2.0            is now 1.3.3
> portmidi            was r223 (maybe)     is now r227
> portsmf             was r223 (maybe)     is now r227
> soundtouch          was 1.3.1            is now 1.7.1
> taglib              was 1.5+             is now 1.9.1
> twolame             was 0.3.12           is now 0.3.13
>
> Removed (for LV2):
>
> liblrdf
> libraptor
> redland
> slv2
>
> Added (for LV2):
>
> lilv                0.16.0
> lv2                 1.6.0
> msinttypes          r29
> serd                0.18.2
> sord                0.12.0
> sratom              0.4.2
>
> Untouched:
>
> expat               not being used
> ffmpeg              being researched
> FileDialog          ours
> id3lib              not being used
> libid3tag           should be replaced with taglib
> libmad              stable
> libnyquist          Roger said new release coming soon.
> libresample         not being used
> libsamplerate       not being used
> libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
> libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
> libsndfile
> libsoxr
> lib-widget-extra    ours
> mod-null            ours
> mod-nyqbench        ours
> mod-script-pipe     ours
> mod-track-panel     ours
> portaudio-v19       (updated before 2.0.5)
> portburn            ours
> portmixer           ours
> sbsms
>
>
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Re: Is it worth updating...

MartynShaw
Indeed!  I can't keep up with the emails, let alone testing!  Thanks!

Martyn

On 02/11/2013 01:50, Vaughan Johnson wrote:

> Wow, Leland, you're a blizzard of activity! Thanks!!!
>
> - V
>
>
> On 10/31/2013 11:21 PM, Leland wrote:
>> To summarize...
>>
>> Libraries updated in the last couple of weeks.:
>>
>> libflac             was 1.2.1            is now1.3.0
>> libogg              was 1.1.3            is now 1.3.1
>> libvamp             was 2.0              is now 2.5
>> libvorbis           was 1.2.0            is now 1.3.3
>> portmidi            was r223 (maybe)     is now r227
>> portsmf             was r223 (maybe)     is now r227
>> soundtouch          was 1.3.1            is now 1.7.1
>> taglib              was 1.5+             is now 1.9.1
>> twolame             was 0.3.12           is now 0.3.13
>>
>> Removed (for LV2):
>>
>> liblrdf
>> libraptor
>> redland
>> slv2
>>
>> Added (for LV2):
>>
>> lilv                0.16.0
>> lv2                 1.6.0
>> msinttypes          r29
>> serd                0.18.2
>> sord                0.12.0
>> sratom              0.4.2
>>
>> Untouched:
>>
>> expat               not being used
>> ffmpeg              being researched
>> FileDialog          ours
>> id3lib              not being used
>> libid3tag           should be replaced with taglib
>> libmad              stable
>> libnyquist          Roger said new release coming soon.
>> libresample         not being used
>> libsamplerate       not being used
>> libscorealign       (oops, my bad...this should have been updated with
>> libsmf...will do it tomorrow)
>> libsndfile
>> libsoxr
>> lib-widget-extra    ours
>> mod-null            ours
>> mod-nyqbench        ours
>> mod-script-pipe     ours
>> mod-track-panel     ours
>> portaudio-v19       (updated before 2.0.5)
>> portburn            ours
>> portmixer           ours
>> sbsms
>>
>>
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