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Stevethefiddle
On Linux, if a project contains a MIDI track only, clicking the Play
button (or pressing spacebar) puts Audacity into a state where nearly
everything is disabled, though Audacity has not crashed and is not
frozen.

Import / Export / Effects / Save / Generate / Analyze / ... all greyed out.
Clicking the stop button does nothing. Escape key does nothing. The
only way out appears to be to close Audacity ("File > Exit" closes
Audacity).

This may be related to http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1690

Also relevant is that on Linux it is not possible to select a MIDI
playback device because Audacity fails to recognise any  MID devices.
(http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)

Is this a bug that needs logging separately, or is it adequately
covered by bugs 1689 and 1690?

Steve

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Re: Most actions disabled after pressing play with MIDI track (Linux)

Pokechu22-3
I'm pretty sure that this is the same cause as 1690; no need for a separate bug report yet.

--Poke

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Steve the Fiddle <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Linux, if a project contains a MIDI track only, clicking the Play
button (or pressing spacebar) puts Audacity into a state where nearly
everything is disabled, though Audacity has not crashed and is not
frozen.

Import / Export / Effects / Save / Generate / Analyze / ... all greyed out.
Clicking the stop button does nothing. Escape key does nothing. The
only way out appears to be to close Audacity ("File > Exit" closes
Audacity).

This may be related to http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1690

Also relevant is that on Linux it is not possible to select a MIDI
playback device because Audacity fails to recognise any  MID devices.
(http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)

Is this a bug that needs logging separately, or is it adequately
covered by bugs 1689 and 1690?

Steve

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Re: Most actions disabled after pressing play with MIDI track (Linux)

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On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Steve the Fiddle <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Linux, if a project contains a MIDI track only, clicking the Play
button (or pressing spacebar) puts Audacity into a state where nearly
everything is disabled, though Audacity has not crashed and is not
frozen.

Import / Export / Effects / Save / Generate / Analyze / ... all greyed out.
Clicking the stop button does nothing. Escape key does nothing. The
only way out appears to be to close Audacity ("File > Exit" closes
Audacity).

Surely these things are disabled, grayed-out and unavailable (deliberately) while
the user is playing an audio track?

In which case it makes sense for them to also be disabled when playing a Note track.

Peter


 

This may be related to http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1690

Also relevant is that on Linux it is not possible to select a MIDI
playback device because Audacity fails to recognise any  MID devices.
(http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)

Is this a bug that needs logging separately, or is it adequately
covered by bugs 1689 and 1690?

Steve

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Re: Most actions disabled after pressing play with MIDI track (Linux)

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On 17 July 2017 at 10:07, Peter Sampson <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Steve the Fiddle
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On Linux, if a project contains a MIDI track only, clicking the Play
>> button (or pressing spacebar) puts Audacity into a state where nearly
>> everything is disabled, though Audacity has not crashed and is not
>> frozen.
>>
>> Import / Export / Effects / Save / Generate / Analyze / ... all greyed
>> out.
>> Clicking the stop button does nothing. Escape key does nothing. The
>> only way out appears to be to close Audacity ("File > Exit" closes
>> Audacity).
>
>
> Surely these things are disabled, grayed-out and unavailable (deliberately)
> while
> the user is playing an audio track?

but nothing is playing. MIDI does not play on Linux because Audacity
does not recognise any MIDI devices
(http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)

Even if the MIDI track was playing, I'd expect "Stop" to stop playback
and return Audacity back to being able to import / export / edit /...

If there really is no available MIDI device, then Audacity should not
attempt to play MIDI. It should not get stuck in this no man's land.

Steve

>
> In which case it makes sense for them to also be disabled when playing a
> Note track.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> This may be related to
>> http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1690
>>
>> Also relevant is that on Linux it is not possible to select a MIDI
>> playback device because Audacity fails to recognise any  MID devices.
>> (http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)
>>
>> Is this a bug that needs logging separately, or is it adequately
>> covered by bugs 1689 and 1690?
>>
>> Steve
>>
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Re: Most actions disabled after pressing play with MIDI track (Linux)

Paul Licameli


On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 5:19 AM, Steve the Fiddle <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 17 July 2017 at 10:07, Peter Sampson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Steve the Fiddle
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On Linux, if a project contains a MIDI track only, clicking the Play
>> button (or pressing spacebar) puts Audacity into a state where nearly
>> everything is disabled, though Audacity has not crashed and is not
>> frozen.
>>
>> Import / Export / Effects / Save / Generate / Analyze / ... all greyed
>> out.
>> Clicking the stop button does nothing. Escape key does nothing. The
>> only way out appears to be to close Audacity ("File > Exit" closes
>> Audacity).
>
>
> Surely these things are disabled, grayed-out and unavailable (deliberately)
> while
> the user is playing an audio track?

but nothing is playing. MIDI does not play on Linux because Audacity
does not recognise any MIDI devices
(http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)

Even if the MIDI track was playing, I'd expect "Stop" to stop playback
and return Audacity back to being able to import / export / edit /...

If there really is no available MIDI device, then Audacity should not
attempt to play MIDI. It should not get stuck in this no man's land.

Steve

The problem, Peter, is that for certain play commands, the green playback indicator failed to disappear after reaching the right edge of the appropriate range, and the commands were not then reenabled.

The complaint I filed was not about disabling the commands during that sweep.

The problem as I have seen it is now fixed thanks to Poke.

PRL

 

>
> In which case it makes sense for them to also be disabled when playing a
> Note track.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> This may be related to
>> http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1690
>>
>> Also relevant is that on Linux it is not possible to select a MIDI
>> playback device because Audacity fails to recognise any  MID devices.
>> (http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689)
>>
>> Is this a bug that needs logging separately, or is it adequately
>> covered by bugs 1689 and 1690?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
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